Now i have a big problem, i have such a hard time relating to people who are caught up in time and with contaminated thoughts, its like, no one can be real, they have no idea that their life is a concept, a bunch of memories in repeat, like a broken record and I'm stuck listening to nonsense, I could never teach JK to them, just look at what JK goes through explaining things for 2 hours, only to realize that his audience didn't capture it.
I understand where you're coming from. I think it's a waystation along the road, though I'm not about to claim to be an authority. Alan Watts makes a reference to Gergiev in one of his lectures regarding one of his disciple's telling him that "our friends don't find us interesting anymore", to which he replied "don't worry, it's only the beginning". As far as I can tell, socializing with people in general, while trying to live the teachings of someone like Krishnamurti, is like a reformed alcoholic trying to hang out with their old drinking buddies after sobering up. The entire dynamic of the relationship changes because the previous dynamic is invalidated, because the points(s) of commonality on which the interaction was predicated, have ceased to be. In one sense, it seems that an individual who has ceased to be in conflict, is perhaps as isolated as one can be, having terminated the greatest common factor across mankind from their life. If the issue is observed a little more closely, you can see a parallel from the issue of isolation to one of the questions asked in the previous talk, regarding the cessation of the movement of thought once it is perceived. Understanding of the wholistic nature of being, and with it, articulating for yourself how the perceiver is the perceived, resolves the conflict of irrelatability. A man who is a light to himself is a light unto the world, right? Because the experience is the experiencer. Please don't think of me as pretentious, but the answer is implicit in the above, and an attempt at an explicit explanation would not be a service.
Now i have a big problem, i have such a hard time relating to people who are caught up in time and with contaminated thoughts, its like, no one can be real, they have no idea that their life is a concept, a bunch of memories in repeat, like a broken record and I'm stuck listening to nonsense, I could never teach JK to them, just look at what JK goes through explaining things for 2 hours, only to realize that his audience didn't capture it.
I understand where you're coming from. I think it's a waystation along the road, though I'm not about to claim to be an authority. Alan Watts makes a reference to Gergiev in one of his lectures regarding one of his disciple's telling him that "our friends don't find us interesting anymore", to which he replied "don't worry, it's only the beginning". As far as I can tell, socializing with people in general, while trying to live the teachings of someone like Krishnamurti, is like a reformed alcoholic trying to hang out with their old drinking buddies after sobering up. The entire dynamic of the relationship changes because the previous dynamic is invalidated, because the points(s) of commonality on which the interaction was predicated, have ceased to be. In one sense, it seems that an individual who has ceased to be in conflict, is perhaps as isolated as one can be, having terminated the greatest common factor across mankind from their life. If the issue is observed a little more closely, you can see a parallel from the issue of isolation to one of the questions asked in the previous talk, regarding the cessation of the movement of thought once it is perceived. Understanding of the wholistic nature of being, and with it, articulating for yourself how the perceiver is the perceived, resolves the conflict of irrelatability. A man who is a light to himself is a light unto the world, right? Because the experience is the experiencer. Please don't think of me as pretentious, but the answer is implicit in the above, and an attempt at an explicit explanation would not be a service.